[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to Real Medicine, real lives. I'm Dr. Yasser Sambal, and together we're showing medical expertise in a human way.
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You ever woken up at three in the morning and wondered, what's going on with me? And started using Google to try to find the answers? Well, you're not really alone. Millions of people do this all the time. They scroll headlines website after website, trying to figure out what fad or whatever thing that they're using to try to still understand what's going on with them, yet they still feel tired or stuck.
Today we have a guest who's walked this path. She's built a bridge. Deborah Crystal is a healthcare visionary. She's a preventative medicine consultant, owner of Epigenetics Scans, and she's here to kind of help us outline cutting edge epigenetics analysis and to personalize our wellness plans.
So you're no longer guessing, but you're actually in knowledge and in the know.
Deborah, welcome to our show.
[00:01:09] Speaker C: Thank you so much for having me.
[00:01:12] Speaker B: So this is interesting. You know, I, you know, I'm a healthcare provider. I've, I've never even heard of epigenetics. I know genetics, which was one of the hardest classes I took in college, but nonetheless. So let's just start out, you know, I mean, people, you know, obviously in my office all the time, I see people come in, they're like, well, I googled this, right? And it's, it's very misleading. And, you know, Google has like 30 different websites for the same problem and everybody's kind of giving you the same information. So kind of give us an idea, you know. Why has it become so hard for people to find actually accurate information online?
[00:01:47] Speaker C: Yeah, that's a great question. And it is so hard because there's a lot of misinformation out there and there's a lot of noise and there's just so much hype out there as well. And most info is really generic and some of it's even conflicting or marketing driven.
So people become super overwhelmed, you know, trying everything, but they still feel stuck and they're just going to the next, like, quick fix.
And it's because, you know, you gotta measure it. You have to have real science when it comes to that. It has to be, you know, good Research. So a lot of the healthcare providers I work with and what I now use is, you know, pubmed.gov for example.
So you want to check when that information was updated and see where that source is coming from. Is it coming from some influencer who's all about marketing hype and storytelling, or is it rock solid foundational science?
So, you know, go to that news first is, is my advice.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: So, you know, it's interesting you must mention PubMed. It's something we all, you know, in medicine use a lot and, you know, looking at clinical data, etc. But for the common public, you know, how would you tell them to approach, you know, medical literature and how they interpret that data? Because a lot of it's probably a little bit complicated, even for people who read it all the time. But you know, for the, for the common everyday person, you know, what, what's the takeaway message they should take or, you know, the simple part of that literature that they're looking at to be able to understand what's going on?
[00:03:31] Speaker C: Yeah, well, it's more about, like, how can I apply it? I mean, I believe everything starts, you know, with measurement. You got to be able to measure and, and see where you're at in different, with different vital signs, including the, the scanner, you know, that I have, because that technology, if you go to pubmed.gov and search for anything related to antioxidants or carotenoids, you'll find over 80,000 published studies, you know, on that correlation and how they play a powerful role in reducing disease risk. Well, now, knowing that's the science and that's what's, you know, what's been validated in the literature. It's like, well, now, you know, how do I find out, you know, what, how do I find out what is going on at a cellular level so I can customize and personalize a plan for me instead of focusing on what worked for this person, that person, and reading all these blogs, you know, going to the, going to the source and asking for, you know, guidance as well, whether it's through your, your health care provider and, you know, really credible resources.
[00:04:50] Speaker B: Great, so break us down. Break us down for us in plain English. Right? So I get genetics, right? Everybody knows what genetics are because we all live our genetics. But tell us what epigenetics is in plain English so that people can understand.
[00:05:04] Speaker C: Sure. Yes. And it's something that's been talked about more and more, you know, recently. So epigenetics literally means above the genes. Right? So epigenetics Means it shows how your lifestyle influences impact how your genes are expressed.
So they offer insights into like your lifestyle choices and environmental factors and how that can impact our health.
And so we're not a victim of our DNA. Like we have the power to shift our health by how we live, you know, our lifestyle, what we eat, how we think, you know, what we take as a supplement.
And you know, even if you look at twin studies and so forth, you know, same genes, but when it gets cancer, you know, one doesn't. Well, what is it? Right, so it's a lifestyle.
And, and that's good news because the good news is, you know, you're not powerless to overcome chronic disease or, you know, reverse obesity or regain youthful energy. You know, you have the power to do all of these things.
[00:06:26] Speaker B: Gotcha. So to kind of summarize that just so it makes a little bit more clear, so you're born with certain genetics, right? But how you live your life, those genetics, we know genetics mutate or genes mutate over time and change. But how you live your life can affect the mutation of those genes and how they translate into what happens into your body.
[00:06:45] Speaker C: Basically 100% perfect.
[00:06:49] Speaker B: And so epigenetic testing, is it like a blood test, is it a scan? I mean, how is the testing actually done?
[00:06:56] Speaker C: So it is a scan. It's done in the palm of your hand and I have it downstairs, I would show you, but it's on the palm of your hand in 30 seconds. It's based on Raman spectroscopy, which is Nobel prize winning science.
So it does that by looking at the carotenoids at the palm of your hand and measuring that oxidative stress in your body non invasively so that somebody can go ahead and move forward with clarity instead of guessing, you know, what's going on. That's why it's so important to track yourself.
People like feedback. So it's more accurate than blood actually than serum because it's measuring over 60 days.
And we have a 10 year Yale study from Yale on this technology. They used it in many different studies for cancer as well. So it's very easy to use. The next one that we have coming out later this year, which is called the Prism IO it will be doing, it's the size of a hockey puck.
So it's going to be, the one we have now is portable, but this one you could fit into your pocket.
And we invested a half a billion dollars last year in a DNA and AI company.
So we'll be able to do genetic testing as well in combination with other biomarkers, microbiome and so forth.
So we have a study from Duke that is being finalized on this new technology.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: Great.
So take us through, you know, maybe some early warning signs, something that people may experience. And you say, you know what? I really could use some epigenetic testing to try to sort this all out and see what the answer is here, what I can do to help myself. So what are some signs, symptoms that people experience that maybe come to see you for this kind of testing?
[00:09:00] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. And it's also important to know that sometimes we're not going to feel things coming on, right? Like, we can't feel that our blood pressure sometimes high. We might not know. That's why, as you know, doc, it's a silent killer, right? So. But your body's always speaking to you, and unfortunately, including myself, we ignore it. You know, in stage one of cellular stress, your body, you're. You're tired and fatigued, for example, and instead of us saying, okay, let me do something about this, we ignore it and just say, okay, like, I'm getting older. I just need more coffee or whatever.
But fatigue is a big signal that our system is out of balance, right? So if there's too much oxidative stress and the mitochondria can't make energy, we're going to feel tired, right? So then that's stage one. So typically, we ignore that. And then stage two of cellular stress is where the body goes, you know, hey, we're tired and fatigued. You ignored us in stage one. So in stage two, we're going to inflict you with the cold or flu or, you know, some type of disease that you're going to have to take something synthetic, you know, to kind of COVID us up.
And then stage three is where the cells go, hey, you ignored us in stage one. Stage two, you try to cover us up. So in stage three, you know, we're going to, you know, inflict you with some disease and, you know, it may kill you, unfortunately, you know, because that's the direction of cellular health with that. So it's really important to track it regardless. I mean, I have so many stories from different patients of doctors. I have a lot of doctors that have this technology in their practice all over, globally, and a lot of their patients have, you know, they have found things and not diagnosed it, but saw something that triggered them to do other tests, and they were feeling fine, right? Like, they. They didn't feel anything.
So we just need to get better at having health performance indicators. And before it, before Our body shows up louder, you know, and starts screaming at you right here.
[00:11:21] Speaker B: Is this something that, you know, somebody may use as a way to say, I'm gonna prevent, you know, something from happening?
[00:11:29] Speaker C: Absolutely. It's all about prevention.
[00:11:32] Speaker B: Okay, gotcha. Is there. Is there any data, quickly that, you know, correlates, for example, doing an epigenetic testing with prevention of high blood pressure, diabetes, or high cholesterol?
[00:11:43] Speaker C: Tons of studies if you go to. Absolutely.
So it's all about inflammation.
You know, that's what we're measuring. Oxidative stress, and it's kind of like hemoglobin A1C to blood glucose. It's measuring over that whole period of time for that.
[00:12:03] Speaker B: Okay, so this is really, you know, this test is really one step that would say you would recommend for patients to go from guessing about what's happening to actually being knowledgeable and knowing what's happening.
[00:12:17] Speaker C: Absolutely. You got to go back, you know, to the info. You have to have the unbiased data that's not sponsored by pharmaceutical companies.
You have to.
You have to know what it. What it is that that's going on. Because if you don't, you know, you got to protect your. You really got to protect your health. And it starts with knowledge.
[00:12:39] Speaker B: Well, Deborah, this has been a terrific start. So just so for the audience and they, you know, if they want to get in touch with you, where can they find you? Like, you have a website or on social media, LinkedIn. Give us some info about how people can find you. To find more about epigenetics.
[00:12:53] Speaker C: I'm on all the platforms, so you can find me under Deborah Crystal, as well as epigenetics Scan is the name of my company.
You can also reach me via cell or text me anytime. I'm happy to show you this technology or measure you and. Or hook you up with somebody in your area.
My Phone number is 941-720-4408.
[00:13:21] Speaker B: Perfect. All right, everybody, hang tight. We're going to come back after this commercial. We're going to talk to Deborah some more about epigenetics and learn some more information and how this technology can help us live better lifestyles.
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Welcome back, everybody. I'm Dr. Yasser Sombol. We're still on real medicine Realize I'm joined by Deborah Crystal.
So if you felt like your life's been a pressure cooker for the last few years, and I know I felt that as well, you're not imagining it. Chronic stress really rewrites our biology.
So today we're going to look at epigenetics a little bit more, and let's unpack how epigenetics can reveal the hidden cost of stress and how it affects our body and maybe more importantly, what we can do about it. Deborah, welcome back.
[00:14:51] Speaker C: Thank you.
So happy to be here.
[00:14:54] Speaker B: Great.
So give us an idea. You know, I mean, obviously stress is never ending, Right. The older you get, the more stress that happens, and that's just the way life goes.
So how does stress affect our body and our genes and our cells and what, what happens with us?
[00:15:13] Speaker C: Yes, this is a great topic.
So when you're stressed out, your body ends up releasing cortisol and adrenaline. And those are meant to help, like, in short bursts, like, you know, back in the day, running from danger. You know, it's just something in our ancestors, right? It's. It's just something that we have. So it's that flight or fight mode.
So but when stress is ongoing, your. Your nervous system gets flooded with inflammatory signals.
And then what that does, of course, is it's going to impact your immune system, gut health, your hormones, and of course, even your genes, because it accelerates aging at the cellular level and weakens your body's defense.
So it, it is just, it is, it is a silent killer if it's ongoing. But there is good news and that you can, you know, conquer that and strive to be stress free for the most part.
[00:16:29] Speaker B: Okay, so does epigenetics give people, for example, a way in knowing why do some people, when they're stressed, somehow use that as a very productive tool? And some people, when they're stressed, just want to curl up on a ball and hide in a corner somewhere and run away from it? Can epigenetics give people insight into how, why that is?
[00:16:51] Speaker C: Well, absolutely. I mean, some people are biologically primed to be even more reactive because of, let's say, early trauma, you know, in their life, chronic stress, or even what their parents experienced.
So these patterns, they can get locked in through epigenetic changes, but they can be reversed too.
So it starts with us, you know, it starts with the choices that we make. It starts with our thoughts. It starts with, you know, what we do every day and changing that paradigm.
[00:17:40] Speaker B: So that's interesting. So, like, when you say think positive, or if you're thinking too negative and you decide to think negative, that can actually affect your genetics and how your genes respond or mutate. If you think positive, that can actually affect your genetics as well.
[00:17:56] Speaker C: Absolutely, yeah.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: Does epigenetics have a way of identifying for people, for example, you know, what their stress fingerprint is?
What exactly triggers their genes to react in a positive or negative fashion?
[00:18:12] Speaker C: Mm, it definitely does.
So especially when you're using something like this scanner, you know, when you see somebody's score, a lot of it is due to different types of stress, whether it's physical stress, chemical stress, and especially emotional stress, which is a big one here in North America.
So that's going to impact somebody's score.
So if they're low on that, we want to offset that.
What's happening at a cellular level due to stress, we want to offset that.
So, and we do that by adding more, you know, antioxidants and carotenoid based foods or supplements to help that, you know, and offset that, of course. And then what that does is it becomes a catalyst towards behavior change.
So you can absolutely measure that.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: Gotcha. So you have a patient or a client or, you know, and they come in, they get this epigenetic testing. You've identified that stress is an issue for them and it's affecting their epigenetics. And so let's just say you wanted to give somebody some advice on one free, you know, cost free way to calm their nervous system down, to kind of help affect their genetics or their epigenetics and what's going on. What's something you would tell somebody routinely on a regular basis?
[00:19:41] Speaker C: I mean, for me, what I do every day, and I started, you know, probably almost seven years ago, is, you know, meditation.
But even a minute in the morning or doing something to, for your vagus. So you have a vagus, or we have a vagus nerve, and your vagus nerve is the longest nerve in your body, connecting your brain to all your vital organs.
And that plays a key role in calming your, your nervous system.
So when you can activate that through breath work, you know, do doing meditation, even humming for 30 or 60 seconds, try it. I promise it works. Or even cold exposure as well, which is another big thing that more and more people are doing to kind of biohack, you know, their body and get it out of this stress mode into a healing mode. So if you're gonna do anything, just make a commitment, do one thing a day, get even if it's five minutes, one minute, whatever, set that time, put in your calendars and appointment with yourself, or you're gonna, you know, do that breathing exercise or listen on YouTube or an app to a short meditation to get your body back to that. To that state of relaxation.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: And so it brings up the next point for me, I guess, just because I'm fascinated by this, that if you tell people to do stuff and let's say, say they go out and they do it and they come back, is there a way for the testing to confirm these changes have happened through epigenetics, meaning that you've affected your oxidative state and everything else?
[00:21:28] Speaker C: Just like anything, you know, whether it's blood pressure, you know, you test and then you monitor, you know, the outcomes from that, and you continue to do that same with this.
So typically when I measure somebody, I will remeasure them in another 30 days or. But we have supplements and protocols that are guaranteed to increase their score after 60 days as well that are in the physician's desk reference. So a lot of the, you know, healthcare providers that I work with, you know, do that because we can't. We're not getting everything from our. Our diet as much as we'd like to, for the most part, so we can see those changes. And that's why it's super encouraging for patients, because it gives them feedback that what they're doing is actually working.
And.
And then that again, becomes another catalyst towards, you know, what else can I do?
So. Absolutely.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: And so would most of the interventions that you recommend. For example, when people get epigenetic testing, you know, people hate taking pills. I mean, I hear it all the time. Can you reduce the amount of pills I take? But would you. Is most of the interventions that through epigenetic testing that you recommend, lifestyle changes, are there medications that need to be implemented besides supplements, like prescription medications, or is it usually supplements and lifestyle modifications helps adjust this oxidative state and all the effects that it's having on your genes?
[00:23:01] Speaker C: Absolutely. It's lifestyle, which includes supplementation, nutrition, physical activity, any emotional mindset, all of that that we spoke about. Will impact somebody's score.
But so we want to help people, you know, get that score as high as possible because we know the higher they go. According to Dr. Richard Cutler, who's a former director of the National Cancer Institute, he quotes that the amount of antioxidants in your body is proportionate to your lifespan.
Well, if that's the case, you know, because of all the studies show we got to be able to measure that, and then we can go ahead and do something about that, whether it's via supplementation and, I mean, I do it all.
So my score is now in the 80 thousands. And, you know, it's, it's great. But America was on the Dr. Oz Show. This technology, he had this on his show in its earlier stages, and he put his audience on that show with a scanner. He had his audience wear different colored shirts based upon their score. And red is bad, and most of them were wearing red shirts. So it was really eye opening.
[00:24:22] Speaker B: Great.
These are really powerful insights. This information is actually really fascinating to me.
Just in case somebody joined us late. Deborah, can you please remind the viewers where they can find you online to follow your work and learn about stress recovery resources?
[00:24:38] Speaker C: Sure. Yes. So you can find me on My website is epigeneticscan.com and you can reach me at 941-720-4408.
And you can also find me on all social media.
[00:24:56] Speaker B: Perfect. All right, everybody, hang tight. We'll be back with some more interesting conversations with Deborah about epigenetics. Or we're going to go to a quick commercial and we'll be back shortly.
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This is real medicine, Real lives. And we're back digging it deep with Deborah Crystal.
If you have, for example, heart disease, diabetes, all this stuff runs in your family, you might feel like, I'm doomed. My genetics are gonna be the end of me. Not necessarily. Epigenetics may tell you a different story and it may help you prevent some of these generational cycles and breaking them in the long term.
Welcome back, Deborah.
[00:26:23] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:26:24] Speaker B: So give us a little refresher in case people kind of join late, but give us a refresher about what's genetics versus epigenetics.
[00:26:33] Speaker C: Yeah, sure. So genes are really like Christmas tree lights, right? They only express when they're switched on.
So for years, you know, we were told that our DNA was fixed, but now we know that's not true.
So what we think, feel, do every day, what it does is it sends signals to your cells either turning, really turning health on or off. And that's what epigenetics is all about. It's that you have the power to influence your genetic expression. And it starts with your next thought.
[00:27:16] Speaker B: Gotcha. So let's just say, give us an example. A personal habit that can flip a negative gene switch.
[00:27:25] Speaker C: Yeah.
Well, first off, you want to make it identity based, right? Like you want this to be a part of you, a part of your consistency wins.
So this has to be something that you have to want to commit to.
So having a reason and having a why, you know, behind that and knowing why you're going to do something is so important.
So instead of saying, I want to be healthy, right, Saying I'm the kind of person that makes health based choices, right. So, and identify those habits because it doesn't have to, it doesn't have to go the way it's always been. No matter where you're at, like right now, at this moment, you can, you can completely change your life.
I did it. I mean, I have a little over nine years of sobriety and, and I was able to completely, you know, change my life. Like I should not be here. I mean, I, it's a miracle I am.
And I did that by changing my habits, knowing why I needed to change and getting the help, and then continuing on this journey, being accountable and consistent with that and having a vision of what I wanted, you know, for my life.
So you can definitely rewrite your, your story, right?
[00:28:56] Speaker B: So I, I think, you know, the theme I take away from what you're saying is even as myself as a health care provider, so, you know, as much as people don't like to take pills, at the same time, people want an easy solution. Right. And the solution isn't always easy. Right. And we underestimate the value of lifestyle modifications and changing our own daily habits. Which is a lot harder to do than just taking a supplement or taking a pill. But we have to actually put the effort into that. And that can clearly change your epigenetics and change how your genes mutate and change risk and prevention of medicine of diseases. Sorry.
Okay.
[00:29:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:29:35] Speaker B: So people maybe have an idea, maybe give us a couple of examples or one example of a patient, you know, something that sticks in your mind where you're like, man, this is going to be a lot of work. But somebody who really put in the effort and really did a lot of the things that were recommended, whether by you or their healthcare provider and followed it and you took them through scans after scan and saw just the progression of that and kind of give us that story maybe. So people can relate to it.
[00:30:01] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I can. I'll start with myself and then I'll give another kind of quick example because of what this has done. So when I first measured myself with this technology, my score was equivalent to somebody that smokes a pack of cigarettes a day.
And I was not smoking. I was actually training for the Boston Marathon.
So I was shocked to see that my score was so low and I was fit and I was doing the things I was taking supplements. But again, it doesn't matter how nice your Ferrari looks if the engine doesn't work.
And around that time I was also told it was very unlikely that I'd ever have a full term pregnancy because they didn't really say I just had miscarriage and it was just something that they told me.
Anyways, what happened was once I got my score into the 60,000 and made some changes including supplements, I got pregnant immediately and I have two little miracles. I have a four and two year old who I've had on this journey and my score is now in the 80,000. I've gone off all medications, so it's been a huge blessing in our lives and in my family's life. I also measure my children and with them I've noticed other behavior changes as well. Once they're score and they're taking more carotenoid based, like we have a juice for example that I give them, it's GAC fruit and it's scanner certified so it's guaranteed to increase your score. So we make popsicles with it and over the weekend, for example, and now I notice now they're craving carrots and other carotenoid based foods. So those are a couple examples.
And then I have a doctor that I work with, he's an OB GYN and he had A girl come in, she was like 20 years old and he her vitals, everything was perfect. But her scan score was going down.
This biomarker was significantly declining. So it raised some red flags and he decided to do a mammogram and found early onset of breast cancer saved her life. I mean, she calls him to this day, thanking him.
[00:32:22] Speaker B: Interesting. That's really cool stuff.
So would you say that, for example, our choices today would echo into our children and our grandchildren, as far as our genetics and how we pass those along moving forward in the future.
[00:32:40] Speaker C: 100%.
Absolutely.
Because you can break unhealthy cycles. You know, I, my parents were great, you know, and all of that, but you can, you know, break generational, you know, curses or whatever you want to call it.
And you can do that through better choices, healing and consistency.
So I try my best. It's hard at times. I'm not perfect at this. You don't have to be perfect at it. You just gotta try and be as committed as you can. Because children who grow up with healthy habits are far more likely to carry them into adulthood, according to research. Right. So. And that will reduce their risk of chronic disease and then that creates a legacy of wellness.
So healing yourself. And I'm so grateful that my children never saw me in my active, you know, years of, you know, drug and alcohol addiction because I healed myself and it's an ongoing journey and. But it's a powerful gift you can give your children when they see me meditating or when they see my husband and I going for walks, you know, in the evening, it influences them. And that's the blueprint that we pass forward.
[00:34:00] Speaker B: Gotcha.
And so do people come to you, for example, say they're gonna have children and they want to figure out what's my state of health before I have any children. And do you think that changes their perception about, for example, having children and changes what they do with their life in order before they have children, for example? Just. Just curious. I'm just, I'm wondering. People use it as a pre screening tool.
[00:34:30] Speaker C: Definitely. And that's why I have this some with OB GYNs for pregnancy outcomes to measure that. Because when you're pregnant, that baby takes everything. It takes all your nutrients. Right.
So you got to give it those nutrients. And yes, you can go out there and just try to find some prenatal, you know, vitamin. But again, back to like that information. How do you know it's working?
Right. And a lot of them are contaminated. A lot of them. So you really, so People get more serious and more, you know, with their health because they're bringing another, you know, human into this world. And it's a beautiful journey, but they really start to waking up to that.
Absolutely. So that's a great question.
[00:35:13] Speaker B: I know you mentioned, just kind of briefly, you'd mentioned, you know, you scan yourself, you scan your children.
Do you see things that maybe, for example, in your initial scan that were bad, that maybe are better after you've improved your lifestyle? That actually resonates well in your children's epigenetic scanning?
[00:35:37] Speaker C: Not. I mean, let me think about that. That's a good question.
I mean, for me, I mean, I made these changes, you know, for myself. So once I saw my. My score was, was so low, of course, you know, I. I got real with myself into how many fruits and veggies, you know, am I eating on a daily basis? Like, it wasn't the nearly the recommended amount, which was like 9 to 12 servings of fruits and veggies, says the National Institute of Health.
So really getting that behavior down, I think, and other behaviors is going to be ingrained in them and in their, you know, DNA.
But other than that, it'll be interesting as we progress with this technology and do more genetic testing, you know, as well, to see that and to get that baseline and to look at other biomarkers.
But, but I do know that it's helped me get off of medication and I know that, you know, cancer runs in the family, right? Like that's breast cancer does. But I feel like, you know, that I, you know, am, you know, safe. I feel like it won't impact me because my body is going to be fighting all that because of free radicals. Right. So I feel like passing that along to my children.
You know, we don't have to continue that cycle of cancer or hypertension or, you know, disease, whether it's even, you know, you know, mental illness. Like, it, you know, the addiction stops with me. I overcame that. And I'm going to use good tools for my children so that they can feel loved and, you know, and, and have these.
Have this kind of mindset and behavior that they instill, you know, at an early age. Again, they're only 2 and 4, so don't really know too much just yet, but that's all right.
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I'm Dr. Yasser Sumbal. We're back on Real Medicine, Real Lives.
We're diving deep into this topic of epigenetics, which is an amazing technology, with Deborah Crystal Hill today.
So next segment we're going to talk about you've got the test results. Now what this is where kind of people get stuck. What do I do with these numbers and how do I translate this into action? So welcome back, Deborah.
[00:39:12] Speaker C: Thank you, doctor.
[00:39:14] Speaker B: Yeah, so you know, you get a new client, right? They get this report, you know, I, you know, you look at it and you say, all right, what do I look at first? And what do I do with this information? Like, what do I start with when I look at this? What do I look at first?
[00:39:29] Speaker C: Yes, absolutely. So when somebody receives their results after getting scanned, the first thing and it comes up on the iPad as well as because it connects to an iPad and app and then it comes up on the machine is their antioxidant score.
So it tells us how saturated their cells are with antioxidants, which is your body's really your first line of defense against disease.
So we're particularly measuring carotenoids.
So we aim, we tell people where their score, you know, should be. And so we kind of grade them.
So we aim to get everybody into that a zone, which is a score of 50,000 or higher.
However, the average American is 24,000 and even though 80% of people take supplements, so that gap tells us a lot as well.
But then this will also give us insight into their nutritional habits.
And we're the only company in the world that can actually do that and measure that nutrient level in your body in real time, living tissue with light, non invasively in 30 seconds, more accurate than blood.
And we also know that once you start raising your antioxidant score, you slow down that rate of oxidative stress, which of course is one of the biggest accelerators of aging and every disease.
[00:41:09] Speaker B: Interesting. So, all right, so you get all this information, all right, what do you recommend to people when they get it, to turn that information into a playbook and how they use, use it in their life from morning to evening time or on a day to day basis?
[00:41:25] Speaker C: On a day to day basis. Okay, so again, we have that baseline, right? So we.
And that baseline is a catalyst towards, like I said, behavior. So it simplifies everything into measurable action steps.
So what I typically, you know, recommend and as well as a lot of the healthcare providers I work with, is introducing, you know, our foundational, you know, supplement, which is called LifePak. And it has seven formulas in one and it has a performance guarantee on it. So it's in the physician's desk reference. It's an amazing product. We have it from geriatrics all the way down to cradle.
And then I also recommend, there's another one that I recommend that is called Ageloc Youth, which mimics the gene expression of a caloric restricted diet and that increases longevity.
So without extreme dietary intervention, because we know that people aren't going to radically change their diet overnight, you know, so having some type of foundation is key.
And then, and then getting into a program, you know, for your, for yourself, right, to take care of your health and you'll start to want, you'll feel better, right? Once you're getting the nutrients your body needs, you're going to feel better. But you want to have a routine. Routines are so sacred to, to me, I have a morning routine, I have a bedtime routine that I need to get better on because I can get very distracted. But you know, just trying to do those little things like waking up at the same time each day to support your circadian health and doing meditation as well, because all of that's so transformational. And just four days, researchers, you know, they've seen hundreds of genes related to healing and immunity start turning on.
So that's the power of mindset and intention. So you got to want to change. You got to want to, you know, do that and understand that for yourself.
[00:43:43] Speaker B: Okay, so, you know, give us maybe some ideas of one or two, even three budget friendly tweaks. People can do you know that, that show quick results or quick wins, for example. And it could be things, you know, that aren't supplements, that it's really, you know, lifestyle things that they can do that, you know, they can, it's, it's at their, their leisure.
[00:44:07] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, absolutely. So in order, you know, for things to change, right, we have to change and in order for things to get better, you know, we have to get better.
So how we do that is you start small, but small creates noticeable changes pretty quickly. So for example, one would be swapping something that has a lot of sugar in it, you know, those sugary snacks for healthier foods. Whether that's, you know, an apple, berries, some type of fruit, you know, doing that isn't pretty easy switch, you know, not drinking that soda, you know, cutting that out completely will do wonders for you.
Another one that I've been really working on is cutting screen time an hour before bed to improve that sleep quality because sleep is so important.
And another one that you can incorporate which is, you know, hydrating first thing in the morning, put a little salt in there, you know, because that will support detox and in your digestive digestion for the day.
And then just, you know, setting appointments, you know, with yourself as well to do meditation to go for that 10 minute walk.
[00:45:27] Speaker B: Great.
So let's just say you and your husband, do you guys have accountability measures for each other to kind of make sure that these changes don't fizzle out and you know, you continue to implement them in your daily lifestyle?
[00:45:43] Speaker C: Yes. I mean for me, like my plan is pretty rock solid. I get up every morning at like 5, 5:30 and I do my workouts, my meditation. I have this kind of miracle morning routine based on the Miracle morning book by Hal Elrod. And I've been doing it for over six years, so I have that dialed in.
My husband, on the other hand, he's a data scientist and God bless him, but he works really hard and he stays up late, so our schedules are so totally different.
Right. So during my last couple of pregnancies, unfortunately he's gained some weight, so he's starting to take his health more seriously. Once he was diagnosed with high blood pressure, so so got him to wake up and add in the supplements and monitor his health. So now what we're doing is we go on walks in the evening as a family or sometimes we go on runs together as family with the strollers and the four and two year old.
So we do this together. You gotta have accountability. You have to have support and we can't make people change, right? Like, I can't force him to do something, even though I'm like, get off the couch, you know, I can't force somebody. But we can, you know, build that accountability, make it a shared goal, and just, you know, enjoy that time together in nature versus, you know, sitting on the couch.
[00:47:18] Speaker B: Gotcha.
And just briefly, maybe you can tell people why celebrating small victories can lead to big transformations.
[00:47:28] Speaker C: Absolutely. Gotta celebrate. Gotta celebrate yourself and reinforce yourself, you know, why not? I mean, success, you know, is gonna build that momentum.
And when you realize, recognize, even minor progress, you're gonna get that, you know, more energy, better sleep, and fewer cravings, and you're more likely to stick with it.
So celebrate yourself, right? Like, you know, have a reward for yourself, whatever that is, a day at the spa. Or, you know, do something for yourself for that is key because you're putting in the work and that's the reward in itself. And just remember, it's not about perfection.
You know, shift that to progress because that's really a key for lasting change. And yes, celebrate your win. Celebrate it as a family as well.
And be proud of yourself.
[00:48:30] Speaker B: Perfect. Deborah, thank you so much for coming on the show. And really, thank you for making science so practical and something that people can implement in their daily lives.
This has really been a fascinating subject, honestly, and I'd love it if, just one last time, if you reminded the viewers where they can find epigenetic scan and, you know, get more information about this from you.
[00:48:53] Speaker C: Sure, yeah. Thank you so much. You can find out
[email protected] that's my website.
You can find me on LinkedIn and other platforms under Deborah Crystal.
And if you have any questions or would like to speak more, you can call me at 941-720-4408.
[00:49:19] Speaker B: Great.
Thank you so much for coming on the show today, guys. If you're drowning in online advice, you're conquering stress, you're overturning, trying to overturn, you know, healthy family curses turn into lab data or into a life change. Today's episode really proves that real medicine begins with knowledge and ends with action.
A heartfelt thank you to Deborah Crystal for sharing her expertise and story of resilience. I'm Dr. Yasser Sombal. This was real medicine, real lives. Until we meet again. Ask better questions. Choose one new healthy habit. And remember, when you give your body the right signals, it answers with vitality. Goodbye.
